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Have the content mills and freelance writing job sites forced class distinction on the writer making some writers into the new snob social class?
To Snob or Not to Snob – they sound like famous words
On perusing many blogs and discussion groups I have seen a variety of comments regarding whether writers would or would not write for the content mills and freelance writing job sites. I’m not talking about ethics here that is a whole different ballgame/blog; I just mean producing articles, blogs, reviews, how to sites etc etc, for fees that a lot of people would consider low for children’s pocket-money.
The comments range from statements like “I wouldn’t get out of bed for that money” to “I love writing for them because at least it gets me some pay and I do get to write”. There’s a certain amount of poetic license in those statements but they are the gist of the extremes.
My Own Freelance Writing Experience
Although writing has unwittingly been part of my working life in excess of 35 years now I have never considered myself as a ‘writer’. During those years I had probably written ten of thousands of words some of it good, some bad and some was definitely ugly; I don’t know why I love that spaghetti western phrase so much? By the way that’s rhetorical before you start commenting.
What I have believed most of my life is that to be a writer you had to write fiction in some form or another. It had always been a dream of mine to write fiction but I had never put pen to paper to bring it into reality.
It is only in the past 6 months I have really considered how wide the field of writing actually is and that I had been contributing to it in a very small way. I am certainly not going to fill my blog with a list of ‘types of writing’ or insult your intelligence by doing so.
Freelance Writing in the Dragon’s Den
Six months ago I had a change in personal circumstances and worrying about how I was going to earn a living or even part of a living I turned to freelance writing. For various reasons discussed elsewhere on Wrapcloth Writings I turned to writing. I have an overactive imagination and some would say ‘quite creative’ so having read about Freelancer.com I went off to earn my fortune. (Bit tongue, again)
Well I discovered quite quickly that unless I became an octopus and worked 24/7 I was never going to make my fortune.
Within the genre of writing I was receiving over 200 job notifications per day, a large number of which were offering rates which I now know are beyond poor and even at the time appeared mildly insulting. The demanding expectations of potential employers was incomprehensible and they would have you tied to your keyboard all day (and night).
Yet despite my harsh language here I fell for it all and spent hours reading postings, composing and posting bids, checking bids, getting annoyed at other potential buyers piggy-backing their jobs on other projects and reporting violations (What a waste of time reporting violations, again another blog)
On top of this I spent time creating my personal information, CV’s etc I was suddenly working full-time and reaping very little benefit. The ‘invest to accumulate’ saying goes out the window when you are sewing prolifically and reaping sporadically and still unable to make any headway.
Eventually something snapped and I decided unless I could get paid a reasonable fee for my efforts I would write for fun and work somewhere else for a reasonable wage; as a lot of writers do. So crossing my fingers I went in search of some ‘good writing’ advise.
The Method
LinkedIn was a resource I had joined some years ago. Like much we do on the internet everyone else was doing it so we join in but now I had a good reason for looking at it as a real tool that could help me. The invaluable part of it I have used so far has been the forums. Below is my current forum membership list.
- Writing & Writer Jobs, Freelance & Technical Writer Jobs
- Freelance Web Writers
- Freelance Writers Inc.
- All writers helping other writers – post comments, recieve comments
- Definitive Serious Writers Group
- Christian Writers Coalition
- Freelance Writers
- Freelance Writers Working For Internet Content Mills
- Working Writers
- writing4u
I was in the ‘gathering information’ stage and found a number of suitable forums and read through them. I must say I have had some great advice, some very strong views and some equally banal views. Some forums I left quickly and others I have remained with sticking my spoke in now again and starting my own discussions.
I found the start of ‘Polls’ within groups irresistible so had to start one.
Having read what I’d read and learned what I’d learned I decided to ask a question I thought may be controversial and posted the same poll on 3 different discussion groups, hoping the diversity of the groups would get feedback from different types of writers.
- Freelance Writers Working For Internet Content Mills
- Definitive Serious Writers Group
- Freelance Writers Inc.
The comments made from the 3 groups were very similar;
- several felt there were good reasons for not writing for content mills some felt the opposite
- several were making money from the content mills others had not seen a bean (metaphorically speaking, I think all of them had actually seen a real bean)
- most felt that it was personal choice whether you did it or not and didn’t look down on those who did
- http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=86235989&gid=2827548&commentID=62891317&goback=%2Emyg%2Eamf_2827548_131049122&trk=NUS_DISC_Q-subject#commentID_62891317
- http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&gid=3693006&type=member&item=86236202&qid=46e47510-b56c-4f62-8026-a30b9ef5189e&trk=group_search_item_list-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Emyg
- Unfortunately the Freelance Writers Inc link has expired.
Without sadness, happiness would become mundane
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Cool site, Nigel! Hope you’re getting plenty of writing gigs too! Keep it up!
Thanks Charlie I’m hoping I’ll get some…soon
There are many of the content mills who feel as though the writers are the least important resource in the mix. The clients and publishers are exalted; the editorial staff (who never touch the writing); are golden and the programmers (who often create inferior platforms requiring personal contact between writer/client…which is forbidden by contract) are forgiven out of ignorance as to how to improve (read demand quality).
Since the editors seek out the client (money) and the programmers make it possible (money) they will always, always, always be paid a relatively decent wage. Writers? They are as cheap as they come. Read into that what you will.
I would have to choose the neither button if offered. Many writers need the exposure of mills (which are different from freelance sites because they offer no author recognition). If you are still building a stable and (re)establishing your authority or reputation (questionable, but another post), mills can help you do that. If you already have an internet presence and a reputation for quality work, you truly have no need for the mills unless you happen to like the format.
Either way, your choice to write for a mill is wholly individual and can only be judged by your motivation to write.
Red.
I think you summed up the general consensus of opinion Red and in a lot less words than I did lol
You make a very good point, Nigel, when you say that it’s possible to find you’re working full-time simply locating and applying for work. If the work is worth having (ie it pays a decent fee) that’s a worthwhile investment, but so many of the so-called opportunities we see on LinkedIn are posted by scammers and freeloaders who want something for nothing. So that time invested can become time wasted.
I daresay there are good paying gigs to be found online, but as I never tire of banging on about in the forums, everyone really must keep track of the time they spend doing any project, and work out what the true hourly rate works out to be.
Sometimes, it can be worth doing one job for a low hourly rate if there’s the chance it will lead to more work from that client, but we all need to be businesslike enough to at least know what that hourly rate IS. As essentially creative people, we can neglect to be businesslike in that way, and I include myself in that criticism!
I love the shout-outs to the LinkedIn groups and the research you did within the forums to form your post. I feel content websites (I don’t like the word mill) works for some writers while others find it below them. No need to look down on one another; we all have different expertise and subjects we enjoy writing on. As many people have said “If we all liked the same things, the world would be a boring place.”
christyb
Hi Christy and Dawn Thank you for reading and commenting and thank you for the nice words
Nigel
Thank you for the mention! I’ve only been freelance writing for about 4 months now and already I’m disappointed in the ‘content mills’ out there. I can’t believe the low pay that these people expect us to write for! It’s ridiculous! Even though I’m new at freelance writing, I have been a writer almost since I could hold a crayon! I feel that my time and talent is much more valuable so I’m setting my sights higher.
Thanks for the informative post!
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